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[主板] 记录一起精粤B650i烧毁7800X3D的事例

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发表于 2024-1-29 17:49 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 WhoamiX 于 2024-1-29 19:47 编辑

原标题:离谱,精粤B650i竟然把7800X3D烧了,因为被指有标题党嫌疑,故修改

上周三无意中刷到一个关注的B站UP评测了精粤B650i这块板子,纸面上看性价比逆天

还在用5900X + X570i的我心里一喜,盘算了下升级7800X3D + 这板子竟然花不了多少钱,于是在多多下单板,闲鱼找了下入了U内



周日兴冲冲拿到了新平台,火速装好开机,没想到就成功亮机一次后,连系统还没进到,就断电了。风扇还在断断续续的转,但是开机却再也点不亮,4个DEBUG灯全部亮起。

一开始还以为我哪里姿势不对,尝试换用亮机卡,重新安装CPU,使用单条内存均无法点亮后,我开始有点慌了,于是电脑城下单微星的B650i,把U内带过去让老板帮忙点亮一下。结果到了店里,换了两张同型号板子和一套内存,还是点不亮,到这里我心已经死了大半。



万幸买的是盒装U,且闲鱼卖家是一手购入,和卖家沟通后决定寄回售后看看。

顺丰航空贼快,周日下午寄出,今天下午早些时候接到售后电话,告知U确实坏了,安排换一颗寄出

还好这张精粤是多多买的,退货比较方便,我是再也不敢用精粤了

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 楼主| 发表于 2024-1-29 17:53 | 显示全部楼层
摸鱼发帖,晚上回家配点昨天的图证明下这离谱的事

我可能是摸雷圣手,都说U不容易坏,但是我手里还挂过一颗9900k,售后没货给我换了9900kf,错失了那波99k的飞涨
发表于 2024-1-29 17:56 | 显示全部楼层
运气问题吧,不过主板建议还是御三家吧,何必省那个钱去买这种牌子。。。。
发表于 2024-1-29 17:57 | 显示全部楼层
有啥离谱的 我当年微星刀锋不照样把我11600k烧了么 好在也是盒装 换新了
发表于 2024-1-29 17:57 | 显示全部楼层
标题很有冲突性,但是没有啥实际论证的环节,也无法分辨到底是什么原因导致。只能说很不幸,但又很万幸,你的u可以保。
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发表于 2024-1-29 18:00 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 alieshex 于 2024-1-29 18:05 编辑

一看就知道没更新bios。我也是这问题,一开机就死机,还好运气好没烧,更新bios马上就正常了
补充下x3d是后出的,主板基本上都是要更新bios的
 楼主| 发表于 2024-1-29 18:02 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
ryan9247 发表于 2024-1-29 17:56
运气问题吧,不过主板建议还是御三家吧,何必省那个钱去买这种牌子。。。。 ...

是的 运气不好 小厂品控差点 脸黑的相对来说遇到问题的概率会大些
 楼主| 发表于 2024-1-29 18:04 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
chen222gou 发表于 2024-1-29 17:57
标题很有冲突性,但是没有啥实际论证的环节,也无法分辨到底是什么原因导致。只能说很不幸,但又很万幸,你 ...

嗯 严谨的说是这样 我用替换法试了其他的可能原因 最终结果是u坏了 要想彻底盖棺定论得再上一颗u去试试 但是店里没人敢再上一颗u去测
 楼主| 发表于 2024-1-29 18:05 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
alieshex 发表于 2024-1-29 18:00
一看就知道没更新bios。我也是这问题,一开机就死机,还好运气好没烧,更新bios马上就正常了 ...

这个板子不支持无u刷bios,我都还没机会进bios就已经不行了。。
发表于 2024-1-29 18:09 | 显示全部楼层
https://www.chiphell.com/thread-2513528-1-1.html

https://www.chiphell.com/thread-2511861-1-1.html


ASUS

Community Notice - ASUS AM5 motherboard owners

An important update for Ryzen7000X3D processor owners

Several AMD Ryzen 7000X3D owners have reported CPU and motherboard failures. We acknowledge the incidents/issues and have been communicating with AMD to analyze the possible causes. We have also contacted affected users to provide support and collect additional information.

Ryzen 7000X3D processors do not allow for CPU ratio or CPU core voltage tuning (CPU overclocking) but do allow for performance tuning and DRAM overclocking via PBO2 and EXPO memory. To support EXPO and/or memory overclocking at DDR5-6000 and beyond, SoC voltage has to be sufficiently increased to ensure compatibility and stability. The amount of voltage required varies between CPU samples. Some processors are more sensitive to overvoltage than others, and some are capable at running higher memory frequencies without needing as much voltage.

As confirmed with AMD, any intentional manipulation of these settings can damage the processor, socket, and motherboard. To mitigate this, we have been working with AMD to define new rules for EXPO memory and SoC voltage. To help protect the CPU and motherboard, we are issuing new EFI updates to limit the maximum available SoC voltage to 1.3V.

We recommend updating your motherboard UEFI BIOS to the latest release. Please also ensure the CPU is cooled adequately. Our recommendation is to use at least a 240mm AIO liquid cooler or high-performance air cooler. If you have been affected, please do not hesitate to contact ASUS support for your region.

FAQ - 1. When are the new UEFI releases going to be released? Our expectation is to have the UEFI BIOS updates posted and available through the service and support website within the next 24 hours.


MSI

Recently, there have been reports of the 7000X3D series CPUs being damaged, which may have been caused by abnormal voltage issues. AMD is currently investigating this issue and working on providing a solution.

Our BIOS always follow AMD's guidance, and our latest BIOS release has disabled the 7000X3D Core over-voltage feature, as requested by AMD.

There has been a report stating:

"As soon as EXPO is enabled, the CPU SOC and CPU VDDIO/MC voltages increase to 1.36-1.4v, sometimes boosting to 1.5V in Windows, causing instant death on the X3D."

We have confirmed that MSI motherboards have not experienced the reported issue of voltage boosting to 1.5v from 1.36-1.4v in Windows.



BIOSTAR

Recent reports suggest that AMD Ryzen 7000X3D processors are prone to physical damage when overclocked with voltage assistance. This has prompted motherboard vendors to rush BIOS updates with voltage limiters, and BIOSTAR is no exception.

The new BIOS update from BIOSTAR restricts direct voltage to CPU Vcore Voltage, CPU SOC Voltage, and CPU MISC Voltage, preventing over-voltage and reducing the risk of damage to the 7000X3D series CPUs. Additionally, BIOSTAR also has PBO (Precision Boot Overdrive, Default: Auto) function to provide the best performance for 7000X3D series CPUs even under Voltage restrictions.




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Since the highly-expected AMD Ryzen 7000X3D-series CPUs launched by AMD, GIGABYTE has provided the best quality AM5 motherboards to unleash the performance of these best gaming processors. GIGABYTE always work closely with AMD to ensure our motherboard design within AMD's guidelines and provide supreme performance with reliability from all aspect. To consistently deliver the most remarkable and solid platform, GIGABYTE release the new beta BIOS regarding to the recent concerns of potential motherboard damaged issues with Ryzen 7000X3D-series CPUs.

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ASRock

TAIPEI, Taiwan, April 27, 2023 – The recent escalating AMD Ryzen 7000X3D Series CPU issue has come to our attention, ASRock treats this type of incident seriously and would like to offer the most updated BIOS across our entire range of AM5 motherboards.

ASRock has released new BIOS as well as A-Tuning utility for following AM5 chipset motherboards which limit CPU voltage on certain power rails. We encourage users to update to the new BIOS with the appropriate voltage settings urgently to ensure system stability and durability.

Apart from bringing rock-solid hardware products to PC users, ASRock is also keen on working with AMD and integrating the most up to date technologies into its products. If you're unsure about the risk of using old BIOS version, please seek professional support from ASRock customer service.
发表于 2024-1-29 18:09 | 显示全部楼层
WhoamiX 发表于 2024-1-29 18:05
这个板子不支持无u刷bios,我都还没机会进bios就已经不行了。。

运气不好没办法。开机第一时间刷bios可能还不会烧。估计是pbo激进soc远超1.3了
 楼主| 发表于 2024-1-29 18:11 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
yubeii 发表于 2024-1-29 18:09
https://www.chiphell.com/thread-2513528-1-1.html

https://www.chiphell.com/thread-2511861-1-1.html

涨姿势了,看来就是这个问题
发表于 2024-1-29 18:14 | 显示全部楼层
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WhoamiX 发表于 2024-1-29 18:11
涨姿势了,看来就是这个问题

主要是你运气太差。多数是超了其实也不会烧cpu的。
发表于 2024-1-29 18:17 | 显示全部楼层
爱国牌新出的B650I AX,价格只要1K,不比这个好么
 楼主| 发表于 2024-1-29 18:21 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
eudemonky 发表于 2024-1-29 18:17
爱国牌新出的B650I AX,价格只要1K,不比这个好么

不喜欢giga,msi在b450i时代留下了好印象,就继续支持下吧
发表于 2024-1-29 18:21 | 显示全部楼层
eudemonky 发表于 2024-1-29 18:17
爱国牌新出的B650I AX,价格只要1K,不比这个好么

爱国一堆缩水马甲板,还是要去看拆解测评。b650上itx确实没啥好的
发表于 2024-1-29 18:28 | 显示全部楼层
标题很吸引眼球,进来一看没有证据。品牌机还坏CPU,所以说明不了任何问题。
有保修就好。
 楼主| 发表于 2024-1-29 18:33 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
c2h6o 发表于 2024-1-29 18:28
标题很吸引眼球,进来一看没有证据。品牌机还坏CPU,所以说明不了任何问题。
有保修就好。 ...

结合11楼,我应该改下标题:精粤B650i出厂bios agesa版本过老 可能会烧毁7000x3d cpu
发表于 2024-1-29 18:40 | 显示全部楼层
给小棉袄装过B760I 用到现在还好。。
发表于 2024-1-29 19:03 | 显示全部楼层
这年月流行从标题就甩锅了,不错,又学到了。
 楼主| 发表于 2024-1-29 19:15 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
zerozerone 发表于 2024-1-29 19:03
这年月流行从标题就甩锅了,不错,又学到了。

是谁的锅,又甩给谁了,帮我分析下吧

进来输出情绪没有讨论价值
发表于 2024-1-29 19:48 | 显示全部楼层
eudemonky 发表于 2024-1-29 18:17
爱国牌新出的B650I AX,价格只要1K,不比这个好么

一个M2。。
发表于 2024-1-29 20:10 | 显示全部楼层
看起来是通病,精粤给我印象还是不错的,作为丐帮一员,足够用了。
发表于 2024-1-29 20:18 | 显示全部楼层
zerozerone 发表于 2024-1-29 19:03
这年月流行从标题就甩锅了,不错,又学到了。

还好这张精粤是多多买的,退货比较方便,我是再也不敢用精粤了。
这时候需要罗老师找你对线!!
发表于 2024-1-29 21:20 | 显示全部楼层
B站up 不高兴的sai
就是精粤b650i+7800X3D debug4灯全亮,7800X3D坏了
是你吗
 楼主| 发表于 2024-1-29 21:20 | 显示全部楼层
zerozerone 发表于 2024-1-29 19:03
这年月流行从标题就甩锅了,不错,又学到了。

咱们来盘一盘这个锅应该怎么分,我的理解:
Snipaste_2024-01-29_21-16-13.png

如果你觉得这个理解不对,锅分的不好,提出来看看

上论坛我是希望有所收获的,想尽量好好说话,楼里几位说我标题不好,我就改为了更平和的描述,这样的交流才有价值
 楼主| 发表于 2024-1-29 21:23 | 显示全部楼层
Teleport 发表于 2024-1-29 21:20
B站up 不高兴的sai
就是精粤b650i+7800X3D debug4灯全亮,7800X3D坏了
是你吗

不是我,我看了他的动态,和我症状是一样的,不同就是我买的U是二手,上这块板子前确认能用的
发表于 2024-1-29 21:28 | 显示全部楼层
WhoamiX 发表于 2024-1-29 21:23
不是我,我看了他的动态,和我症状是一样的,不同就是我买的U是二手,上这块板子前确认能用的 ...

当然也有7800X3D在b650i上存活的案例
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