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[CPU] intel能在黑神话开卖前修好13代14代稳定性bug吗

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发表于 2024-6-22 15:25 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
已知黑神话属于高压UE5游戏,高几率触发intel 13代14代K版处理器的稳定性BUG

如果8月20黑神话正式上线前这个bug还修不好那intel真的要在大中华区砸盘了。

之前几个UE5大作国内都没什么人玩所以还没什么事。这下来个黑神话直接在中国普及UE5游戏了,而中国又是intel最后的阵地了,不知道intel怎么处理这场大考。
 楼主| 发表于 2024-6-23 02:06 | 显示全部楼层
locoroco 发表于 2024-6-23 01:06
哈?要知道什么 ?

早已经有非UE5的游戏 因为这几个型号缩肛导致 闪退之类的问题


非UE5的游戏根本不会大面积Trigger这个BUG,只有基于UE5的游戏才会这样高频引起稳定性问题,别的游戏的稳定性问题只能说是个例。

Epic旗下RAD的官方statement:

RAD has become aware of a problem that can cause Oodle Data decompression failures, or crashes in games built with Unreal. We believe that this is a hardware problem which affects primarily Intel 13900K and 14900K processors, less likely 13700, 14700 and other related processors as well.


https://www.radgametools.com/oodleintel.htm

Nightingale(UE5游戏)的Steam社区讨论:
To everyone experiencing shader compilation "Out of video memory trying to allocate a rendering resource" errors

Your CPU is faulty and has Core errors. It's not your GPU, its your CPU

Crashing with this sort error message (and others, including straight up CTDs) when performing shader compilation is famously caused by broken CPUs, namely the Intel 13x and 14x series, and more specifically (but not solely) the 13900k and 14900k variants.

Anyone affected by shader comp crashing on the aforementioned CPUs just needs to open Event Viewer and do a parse for 'WHEA-Logger' warnings. Inside those entries, look for 'Translation Look Aside Buffer' and 'Internal Parity Error'. There will be lots. That's a bad CPU.

Furthermore, the CPU core errors, which are PCore-based can be surfaced by running OCCT whilst applying a very slight OC via BIOS, with SVID=Typical and LLC=4. OCCT will out Core errors almost immediately and then throughout the rest of the run. You may even get OCCT to report Core errors without these BIOS tweaks, depending on how bad the CPU has gotten. Attempt any this at your own risk. I'm simply reiterating how I was able to isolate down.


https://steamcommunity.com/app/1 ... 221029098493967556/

REMNANT 2 (UE5游戏)的官方答复:

--Out Of Memory when Loading (Intel 13th generation CPU’s)--
We have identified an issue on some Intel 13th generation CPU’s where upon startup the game will display a message about being out of video memory or the crash reporter will pop up referencing an issue with decompressing a shader. If you experience this problem, you will likely also see it in other DX12 games.


https://www.remnantgame.com/en/news/article/11551423

还有很多UE5游戏关于intel稳定性问题的社区讨论和官方答复,我就不全贴了,你想找我可以给你找十来个出来。

现在是intel这边的最新答复:
Intel analysis has determined a confirmed contributing factor to the instability reports on Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen (K/KF/KS) desktop processors is elevated voltage input to the processor due to previous BIOS settings which allow the processor to operate at turbo frequencies and voltages even while the processor is at a high temperature.

However, in investigating this instability issue Intel did discover a bug in the Enhanced Thermal Velocity Boost (eTVB) algorithm which can impact operating conditions for Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen (K/KF/KS) desktop processors. We have developed a patch for the eTVB bug and are working with our OEM/ODM motherboard partners to roll out the patch as part of BIOS updates ahead of July 19th, 2024. While this eTVB bug is potentially contributing to instability, it is not the root cause of the instability issue.

As Intel and its partners continue working towards a conclusion to the investigation, we want to make sure that all users are clear on the recommended power delivery profile settings for Intel Core 13th and 14th Gen (K/KF/KS) desktop processors. Intel also recommends users check their motherboard vendor’s website for the latest relevant BIOS updates:

Next Steps

As we noted earlier, this investigation is not an easy one to conduct and we’re grateful for both the support of our partners in conducting the analysis as well as the patience of the Intel community.

In the interim, please reach out to Intel Customer Support if you have questions or concerns regarding your Intel Core 13th or 14th Gen (K/KF/KS) desktop processor.


https://community.intel.com/t5/P ... /m-p/1607807#M73544

意思是问题还没有解决,顺便把13600K/KF, 14600K/KF也加到了问题影响的列表里。目前intel还是在通过售后换新来处理。

顺便,这不是很多人理解的降频锁功耗降压就能简单处理的,因为参照前期intel处理这个问题是严格锁功耗,但是现在有部分放开功耗的情况来看,功耗不是影响稳定性问题的关键。现在intel自己也不清楚到底问题出在哪里,所以很多坛友理解的降压降频保平安并不是解决问题的办法。目前最靠谱的方法还是更新最新的BIOS+售后换新。




发表于 2024-6-22 15:29 | 显示全部楼层
i9想稳定,降频即可,目前最简捷有效
发表于 2024-6-22 15:37 | 显示全部楼层
发了也未必会更新,臭打游戏的大概率连自动更新都关了,更别说更新bios了
发表于 2024-6-22 15:39 | 显示全部楼层
没事的, 大不了B站视频通关
发表于 2024-6-22 15:44 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 zerozerone 于 2024-6-22 15:48 编辑

这些年这些代,引入一大堆的灰烬技术,为了纸面测试性能,各种debuff玄幻式各种叠加,这么多幺蛾子短期(半年)内能排查出结果就是运气活,要是穷举排查(根本不指望)DDR6出来也解决不了,按intel以往对这类bug的操性,大概率就是糊弄到产品生命周期结束,重新开小号重练。


资本层这几年在amd,intel之间横跳,做多,做空都是名(正名、恶名)利双收,产品、技术的演化节奏咋就那么配合资本、媒体、舆论的演化逻辑呢,哈哈。

韭菜对镰刀的野望向来都是一本糊涂账。
发表于 2024-6-22 15:45 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
先视频云通关然后年底出新u新卡换完再玩
发表于 2024-6-22 15:50 | 显示全部楼层
买大雕再定频定压在1.28V以下可解
发表于 2024-6-22 15:51 | 显示全部楼层
想多了,一个单机游戏而已,谈不上普及。
发表于 2024-6-22 16:32 | 显示全部楼层



正式版bios,估计也就这样了
发表于 2024-6-22 17:09 | 显示全部楼层
看推荐表配置表,明显是个低低U高显游戏,cpu要求低的发指
发表于 2024-6-22 18:14 | 显示全部楼层
其实影响最大的是主播,很多用的是I9顶配整机,自己对这些也没什么了解,到时播起来三万电脑一秒躺
发表于 2024-6-22 18:26 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
多派人高强度发zen4没人买的贴就行了
发表于 2024-6-22 18:27 | 显示全部楼层
这种魂游戏是一众非常辣鸡类型,好好的西游文化却付之于这种狗屎,不得不说游戏开发方除了迎合新生代不健康的游戏文化外,别无所长。
为这种辣鸡游戏而产生硬件焦虑,真的没必要。
发表于 2024-6-22 18:40 | 显示全部楼层
我首发的139k 定频5.6+4.5定压1.275v 没出过任何问题。。。2077也没出问题,所以结论就是定频定压哈哈哈
发表于 2024-6-22 18:44 | 显示全部楼层
ykdo 发表于 2024-6-22 18:27
这种魂游戏是一众非常辣鸡类型,好好的西游文化却付之于这种狗屎,不得不说游戏开发方除了迎合新生代不健康 ...

让大圣从小喽啰开始,大圣知道了能直接憋屈死哈哈
发表于 2024-6-22 18:48 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2024-6-22 18:54 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
有什么难的,悄摸摸再降点就是了
发表于 2024-6-22 18:59 | 显示全部楼层
我觉得吧如果真像你说的"在中国普及UE5游戏", 再崩溃了, 也没啥所谓
不是贬低国产, 我反正买了
发表于 2024-6-22 19:03 | 显示全部楼层
什么BUG哎···

我14700K,一月份买的,当时气温低就是关HT锁5.8 1.33,现在夏天来了,锁5.7关HT 1.27。满载拷机就80多度。

每天高强度玩剑网三,没遇到过什么不稳定的情况啊。
发表于 2024-6-22 19:06 | 显示全部楼层
其实也没你想的那么多人玩这个
发表于 2024-6-22 19:09 | 显示全部楼层
还是和体质有关啊 我的13700KF 5.7 4.6 5.0(关HT) 稳如老狗
发表于 2024-6-22 19:14 | 显示全部楼层
很简单,开空调到5度,抖着玩游戏
环境温度他没有考虑到
发表于 2024-6-22 19:52 | 显示全部楼层
貌似小七 发表于 2024-6-22 19:03
什么BUG哎···

我14700K,一月份买的,当时气温低就是关HT锁5.8 1.33,现在夏天来了,锁5.7关HT 1.27。满 ...

有的14700KF 出厂1.47V电压,运行1.5V
发表于 2024-6-22 20:16 | 显示全部楼层
ykdo 发表于 2024-6-22 18:27
这种魂游戏是一众非常辣鸡类型,好好的西游文化却付之于这种狗屎,不得不说游戏开发方除了迎合新生代不健康 ...

能不能先去了解一下游戏?这游戏跟传统魂一点都不像,甚至都可以不划到类魂这个标签里
发表于 2024-6-22 20:19 | 显示全部楼层
一个开启预售才刚半个月,预售销量就已经超过200万份,而且可以说近大半都是国内和海外华人贡献的销量,有人竟然说的如此不堪,实在令人唏嘘

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发表于 2024-6-22 21:07 | 显示全部楼层
从去年线下试玩和公布的推荐配置来看,显卡才是大头CPU并不太重要,上个13600KF估计就拉满了
发表于 2024-6-22 21:07 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
国内唯一坚持做3a的,要让他们知道自己几年付出打磨的游戏是能得到丰厚回报的,以后才会有更多国产3a,而不是一堆诱导消费的速成网游

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发表于 2024-6-22 21:10 | 显示全部楼层
这是先天缺陷修不了啊,只能降频降压降功耗降温来《解决》
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修?为什么要修?有的是大儒为他辩经
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